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Russia Cares Greatly About Germany – Interview with Jörg Urban (AfD)In a recently published interview for “Antispiegel.ru,” Thomas Röper speaks with Jörg Urban, the chairman of the AfD in Saxony. The conversation revolves around Urban’s participation in the BRICS Forum in Sochi and highlights Germany’s economic challenges, the impact of sanctions against Russia, and opportunities for future cooperation with the BRICS countries. Urban emphasizes that Germany is still valued in Russia and other BRICS nations—an attitude he sums up with the statement: “Russia cares greatly about Germany.” Economic Strain Caused by SanctionsUrban explains why, as a regional politician from Saxony, he participated in the BRICS Forum: Saxony, a strongly export-oriented federal state, suffers especially from the sanctions against Russia. Before the conflict, Saxony exported goods worth more than one billion euros annually to Russia—a volume that has now been completely lost. Added to this are high energy prices, which are twice as high as in neighboring countries like Poland or the Czech Republic. This leads to companies relocating and threatens the middle class. Urban criticizes the EU’s and the German government’s confrontational policy, which has now been extended to China, and sees it as causing severe damage to the German economy.He points out that many Saxon business leaders are in talks with the AfD and hope that a stronger presence of the party could bring about a turnaround. The AfD stands for a diplomatic foreign policy and free trade that benefits businesses. Impressions from the BRICS ForumAt the forum in Sochi, Urban spoke with representatives from Russia, India, and other BRICS countries. He describes a mixture of criticism of the West’s confrontational policy and an open hand extended for cooperation on equal footing. The BRICS countries, whose economies are already larger than those of the G7, see Germany as a potential partner—provided ideology is replaced with pragmatism. Urban stresses that the AfD, as the only parliamentary party in Germany advocating dialogue with Russia, is viewed positively. In Russia, the AfD is closely observed, as it sparks hope for a normalization of relations.Particularly interesting: Urban hears from European bidders seeking access to the remaining functional pipeline of Nord Stream 2 in order to bring affordable Russian gas back to Germany. He considers it realistic that Germany, as the strongest EU power, could lift these sanctions once political change occurs. Political Prospects in Germany and EuropeUrban sees signs of a shift in thinking in Germany. The current coalition could collapse early if the economic situation worsens and poll numbers continue to fall. He reports on behind-the-scenes conversations with CDU politicians who are questioning the “firewall” against the AfD. The CDU must abandon its green-left positions in order not to lose voters. At the EU level, Urban expects the United States—under a Trump administration—to move toward greater cooperation with BRICS, and Europe to follow.He advocates for pragmatic politics beyond ideological divisions. In Russia, dialogue between parties of different orientations works, something he finds lacking in Germany. At the municipal level in Saxony, cooperation with the CDU and others already exists where substantive issues are prioritized. Appeal: Experience Russia PersonallyIn closing, Urban calls on Germans, especially those from the West, to visit Russia. Despite travel hurdles (e.g., via Turkey), it is worthwhile to explore cities like Moscow or St. Petersburg and speak with Russians. He criticizes the demonization of Russia in the media and emphasizes that East Germans, due to historical contacts, have a positive view. “Russians are completely normal people,” he says, and a personal visit can break down prejudices and contribute to better understanding.The interview underscores Urban’s conviction: Germany’s future lies in cooperation with BRICS, not confrontation. It offers food for thought for a realpolitik shift that prioritizes the economy and peace. Author: AI-Translation - АИИ | |
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