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€6,000 Fine or 75 Days in Prison for Demanding the Truth – Incitement to Hatred?The dangers do not only lurk online. They are also right in front of your screen. Posting something on the internet can lead to fines or prison sentences—even if you just want to know the truth.  Sabine Saupe had to experience this firsthand. In June 2024, she received a penalty order of €6,000 or 75 days in prison (full penalty order further below). She was reported for incitement to hatred. The public prosecutor claimed that Sabine Saupe had written the following in the Telegram group "Weißenfels diskutiert II" under a video from the program Panorama, which dealt with Ursula Haverbeck: "The Holohoax is the most disgusting, brazen, shameless Jewish lie of all time! Filthy Jews declared war on Germany in 1933, not the other way around! Haverbeck is a hero! The filthy Jews must pay reparations to Germany, not the other way around! Filthy Jews slaughtered 15 million Germans after 1945, in the gulags or Rheinwiesen camps! To all Germans: Take back every cent you gave to Israel!" However, two important details were either omitted or overlooked by the complainant and/or the public prosecutor. The text was not Saupe’s own comment, but a forwarded post by someone named "Wolf." Sabine Saupe had commented underneath: "I want to know the truth." This was not taken into account in the penalty order. Oral Hearing on the Charge of Incitement to HatredOn April 9, 2025, an oral hearing took place at the District Court of Merseburg. Around 20 spectators and supporters attended to see how the case would be resolved.The prosecutor representing the public prosecution had not handled the case personally and was only familiar with the file. The complainant, Enrico Kabsch (Chairman of the Simon Rau Center in Weißenfels), was summoned as a witness. He was asked whether he could have altered the screenshots. A discrepancy was noted, as one said "from Wolf" and another "by Wolf." Kabsch denied making any changes. An IT forensic expert was also unable to explain the small difference. Enrico Kabsch, who confirmed that he is a member of the Telegram group, held the view that such a “re-posting” was sufficient to constitute incitement to hatred. It was not asked why he is a member of that Telegram group. Sabine Saupe’s lawyer pointed out that she has Jewish friends and acquaintances and would never use such language. The post was not written by her. She had not even properly read it under the video. Her only comment, "I want to know the truth," was hers. Furthermore, Saupe had explicitly distanced herself from the crimes of the Nazi era. The investigation should have targeted the original poster. Whether that has happened is unknown. The prosecutor was asked how the case should now proceed. He proposed dropping the case. With Saupe’s consent, the case was dismissed, and all legal costs were covered by the state. There was a great sense of relief among Sabine Saupe and the spectators. Unanswered QuestionsHowever, some questions remain. Why had the public prosecutor not recognized the facts from the outset? Why did it have to come to a trial that cost Sabine Saupe a great deal of stress? With more diligent investigation and consideration, the case should never have been opened. Why is Enrico Kabisch a member of such a Telegram group?A “re-posting” can arguably be viewed as a “quote.” After all, Ursula Haverbeck was also featured and quoted in the Panorama TV segment, or even interviewed directly. This Case Also Leaves a Bad TasteWhile no action was taken during the pandemic years or even today in response to massive verbal abuse against segments of the population—for example, Sarah Bosetti’s comment that the unvaccinated are the appendix of society—in the case of Sabine Saupe, the state used a sledgehammer and issued a penalty order without investigating exonerating facts.The Full Text of the Penalty Order:The Public Prosecutor's Office in Halle accuses you, on 07.09.2023 at 21:39, in Bad Dürrenberg, by the same act, a) of having, in a manner likely to disturb the public peace, incited hatred or called for violence or arbitrary measures against a national, racial, religious group or a group defined by its ethnic origin, or parts of the population or an individual because of their affiliation to such a group, b) of having, in a manner likely to disturb the public peace, attacked the human dignity of others by insulting, maliciously disparaging, or slandering a specified group, part of the population, or an individual belonging to such a group, c) of having publicly approved, denied, or trivialized an act committed under National Socialist rule as described in §6 para. 1 of the Code of Crimes Against International Law, in a manner likely to disturb the public peace. You are accused of: At the time of the offense, you used the social network Telegram and were also a member, under the profile name “Angel for Peace,” of the Telegram chat group: “Weißenfels diskutiert II,” which had 84 members. You had no personal relationship with all group members, and therefore had to assume that an undefined and no longer manageable number of people could read your comments. On the day of the offense, you posted in the above-mentioned Telegram group a roughly 48-minute report from the political magazine PANORAMA titled "Auschwitz Expert at NPD Events." The video featured an interview with Ursula Haverbeck, a known Holocaust denier with multiple prior convictions for incitement to hatred. In this interview, Haverbeck once again denied that Auschwitz-Birkenau was used for the systematic extermination of human life, particularly Jewish people. She also claimed that there was no systematic killing of Jews by Nazi Germany, and no mass gassing with Zyklon B in Auschwitz. These claims are demonstrably false based on countless eyewitness reports, documents, historical scholarship, and numerous court findings. You commented on this report in the Telegram group as follows: "The Holohoax is the most disgusting, brazen, shameless Jewish lie of all time! Filthy Jews declared war on Germany in 1933, not the other way around! Haverbeck is a hero! The filthy Jews must pay reparations to Germany, not the other way around! Filthy Jews slaughtered 15 million Germans after 1945, in the gulags or Rheinwiesen camps! To all Germans: Take back every cent you gave to Israel!" With these remarks, you similarly denied the systematic extermination and murder of the Jewish population in Europe and worldwide by Nazi Germany, as well as the mass gassings in Auschwitz using Zyklon B. You knew these claims were demonstrably false. Your statements that Jews—not Germany—declared war in 1933, that Jews slaughtered 15 million Germans after 1945, and that Jews should pay reparations to Germany, as well as your call to reclaim all funds given to Israel, are deliberate and targeted incitement of hatred against Jewish people and their representation, including Israel. Your use of the term "filthy Jews" and labeling the Holocaust as the "Holohoax" undeniably deny Jewish people an equal place in society. Your claim that the Holocaust is the "most disgusting Jewish lie of all time" is intended to convince readers that Jews have falsely defamed Germany and unjustly profited from this supposed lie—thus justifying discrimination and violence against Jewish people. By endorsing Haverbeck’s revisionist views and calling her a "hero," your statement is solely to be understood as incitement to hatred and a call to arbitrary actions against Jews. Criminal offense, punishable under §§ 130 para. 1, 2, 3, and 52 of the German Criminal Code. Evidence: I. Your statements, as far as provided. II. Witnesses: 1. Enrico Kabisch, Weißenfels 2. Mr. Soldatkin, IT Forensic Expert Bl. 4ff Bl. 38ff III. Items of Evidence: 1. Printed screenshot of Telegram “Weißenfels diskutiert II” 2. CD with PANORAMA video Bl. 8ff At the request of the public prosecutor, a fine of 150 daily rates is imposed. Each daily rate is set at €40.00, resulting in a total fine of €6,000.00. If the fine cannot be paid, each two daily rates will be substituted with one day of imprisonment. You must also bear the costs of the proceedings and your necessary expenses. Author: AI Translation - Michael Thurm | 20.04.2025 |
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