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The Great Fear of Peace with Russia! The Even Greater Hypocrisy!


The demonstrations for peace last Saturday in Zeitz and Monday in Weißenfels sparked numerous critics online, who somehow seem to have a huge fear of peace with Russia.



First of all, I want to note that I was not present at either of the demonstrations, Against the Traffic Light and the Storm: Protest Parade for Peace and Freedom! and Time is running out: Peace demonstration in Weißenfels on July 8, 2024 demands united action against war! I neither filmed them nor am I responsible for the speeches and texts. I posted the links to the articles in several Facebook groups. The following comments and posts are scattered across groups and incomplete. However, I think they provide some insight.

Daniel Berndt wrote: At demos against the right-wing there are hundreds/thousands on the streets; at a peace demo... nobody. What a ridiculous society this has become...

Philip Behr replied: The demo isn’t really about peace; it’s about becoming a satellite state of Russia out of fear of conflicts.

Elke Baum wrote about the demo in Weißenfels: parade of idiots and in another post: Did Grit Wagner have the rainbow flag painted on her little ass?

Jens Rothe wrote: Is this time on Red Square? The funny bunch supposedly cares about peace? Then off to Moscow to the cause of the suffering in Ukraine.

Michael Scholz posted: This is the cross-front for lies. Someone really needs to fact-check and expose all the nonsense being spun. This is Russia’s fifth column, Putin’s useful idiots, who voluntarily spread Moscow’s lies. When I hear speeches like that, I get furious. Especially the statement about the bombing of the largest and most important children’s hospital in Ukraine is simply disgusting! Elke Baum replied: Exactly, disgusting vile scum

Christian Pagel chimed in: These 20 walkers are important for peace? Not even the pigeons bother to pay attention to these idiots. Embarrassing and once again a harsh embarrassment for Grit! Elke Baum added: the slender Grit is the icing on the cake Jens Rothe added: you underestimate the scale. THIS IS THE PEOPLE! So we should worship them and wave loudly at them laughing. Even our AfD Aryan commissioner was there and this time even took off his gloves. Apparently, no one nearby was there to beat up.

Regarding the missile strike on the children’s hospital in Kyiv, Christian Wetzel asked me: great oracle please tell me, did Russia bomb a children’s hospital? Just Yes or No!?! I replied: Russia says no. Ukraine says yes. I wasn’t there. I don’t know. and added the link to Children’s Hospital Lie: Video shows how accurately Ch-101 missiles hit military targets in Kyiv

Christian Pagel: you’ve become such a disgusting Kremlin troll that you even try to deny the targeted strike on a children’s hospital with Russian propaganda.
The missiles that hit the children’s hospital have since been examined and western components were found in these Russian missiles.
Russian cruise missile apparently contains western components You can clearly see the missiles hitting the hospital and that it wasn’t air defense or their own missiles.
You now reveal yourself as an enemy of children’s lives. You have not condemned Russia for attacking children in broad daylight. Disgusting Michael Thurm. But this abhorrent view of yours will spread accordingly.
Just read it!
BrennpunktUA


Michael Scholz added, addressing me: How deep do you have to be up Putin’s ass to write something like that?

Marcus Runge joined the discussion later: Here’s a good article that refutes your propaganda: “Kyiv cutlet” served after UN session: Russia outraged after missile attack on Ukrainian children’s hospital with menu choice

I answered him: The article doesn’t really confirm that the hospital was attacked by the Russians.
In war, truth is the first casualty. I recall the incubator lie that led to the Iraq War and that Iraq supposedly had weapons of mass destruction, which was never confirmed after many, many deaths. Nevertheless, it was steadfastly claimed.


Elsewhere I posted the link The War Lie of Tonkin, which started the Vietnam War. This to show that Ukraine’s information may not be accurate and war lies are clearly a US domain.

Ukraine is increasingly losing this war and needs support. Therefore, this event comes at the right time and is being blown up to try to get other countries to officially send significantly more soldiers.
Is Ukraine running out of soldiers? Poland knows the solution

Troops from large countries already in Ukraine

And overall rearmament is planned. You can see this in current media reports. USA want to station medium-range weapons in Germany – Several countries deliver F-16s to Ukraine


Marcus Runge: just how you again prove the nonsense-thinking discussion culture. Quickly divert and change the subject... Stay with it. Or do you have no evidence that it wasn’t Russia? Embarrassing.

Michael Thurm: Ukraine cannot win this war. Every additional day without a ceasefire means deaths on all sides. Every further rearmament destroys taxpayers’ money and prosperity for all involved. Including your money. Money that goes into weapons is missing in other areas like infrastructure, social services, education, health.
Smart people would recognize this and look for ways to achieve ceasefire and peace.


Marcus Runge: You again distort facts according to Putin’s directive. Russia must leave Ukraine because they are the aggressors.

Michael Thurm: And if they don’t? What then? Fight to the last Ukrainian and go down waving the flag? Or should NATO countries get involved, should Germany get involved? Should missiles also strike in Germany? Is that better than ceasefire and peace?

Marcus Runge: What peace? The fake peace that Putin’s little toadies like you demand? Russia has no right to annex Ukraine. Think of Belarus, Kazakhstan, Georgia... Where will it stop? The Baltics? Moldova? Finland? Poland? He won’t stop, you got that right. Ukraine is the buffer against his megalomania, as horrible as that sounds.

Christian Pagel expressed similar views elsewhere.

Hungarian President Viktor Orban recently launched a peace initiative and was heavily criticized for it. From interviews with Orban, I gather that he also wants to end the death of soldiers. Such initiatives are somehow unpopular.



Thus, the above-mentioned discussants have a great fear of peace with Russia. It is only acceptable if Russia submits to the demands of the Ukrainian side. But when has it ever happened that in a military conflict the side with the upper hand backs down? It’s probably illusory in this war too that this will happen. Why is it so hard for the above-cited discussants to accept certain realities?

To me, it appears that the non-Russian propaganda is working. Politics has said that Ukraine will win this war, must win it. So that is the only truth and the only goal. That is held to rigidly. That is indisputable!

Just as politics said that the "Corona vaccines" are free of side effects and the pandemic can only end when everyone is vaccinated. Those who think differently are the enemy. The above-mentioned discussants belong to those who welcomed and participated in the Corona measures. They took the "vaccines" because politics said it would save lives. Saving lives is very important to them.

If politics says CO2 causes climate change, that is also the only truth that must not be questioned. If politics decides CO2 taxes must be paid because it will stop climate change, then taxes will be paid. Because that saves lives. Saving lives is very important to them.

If politics says more weapons are needed in Ukraine to save lives there, that’s logical, since every child knows weapons have always saved lives. Apart from the many millions who died because of weapons. Saving lives is very important to the above discussants.
Polemic: Off!

I conclude that the above discussants think in terms of power structures. Exert power over others, show power. They serve those they consider powerful and adopt their (pseudo)arguments, representations, and claims. Possibly they feel bigger and more important because of this. This can be seen from the constant insults they use to degrade others.

What they haven’t considered: The powerful don’t care about these discussants at all. They won’t give a damn about them because human lives mean nothing to them. If it were otherwise, there would have been no Ukraine conflict since 2014 at the latest, no Ukraine war, and no many other wars.

Anyone who thinks otherwise should watch the few seconds of this video. Former US Secretary of State Madeleine Albright is

Author: AI-Translation - Michael Thurm  |  11.07.2024

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