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Zeitz Has a Problem - When Simplicity Wants to Defend Diversity and Democracy - An Online Chat with Christian PagelRegarding the article about the "Secret Meeting over Deportation in Zeitz," there were, among other places, some discussions on Facebook. Outstanding once again was the fighter for diversity and democracy: Christian Pagel. ```html Sometimes I really don’t know whether to laugh or cry. Or would pity be more appropriate? Following the article about the Secret Meeting over Deportation in Zeitz, a chat developed on Facebook that should really send chills down the spine of every democrat. Christian — champion for diversity, freedom of speech, democracy, etc. — Pagel showed himself once again at his best. According to his own statement, he is about 30 years old, vaccinated five times against COVID, and works in a profession that, according to him, requires empathy because it involves people. In the following quotes, no spelling mistakes have been introduced by me. These are his original posts: His first post about the article reads as follows: Oh dear, now the enemy of democracy and the rule of law is pissed off because he wasn’t invited to meetings defending the rule of law and democracy. Once again society shows very clearly that the only thing we all agree on is liking döner, which is not enough to meet up with confused lateral thinkers, “walkers,” and other brainwashed people who either join forces with right-wing extremists or support Reich citizens. It’s unfortunate that these lateral thinkers can’t get a foot in the door anywhere and the hobby gutter pseudo-writer has to vent his frustration... Note his "empathetic" choice of words and his usual false claims that I am an "enemy of democracy and the rule of law." This is not true. I have told him this several times. Yet he continues to assert it. A typical tactic to slander others, reminiscent of dark times in German history. I told him he obviously did not understand the article. He replied: Well, I understood the text full of lies and errors very well. You’re pretty pissed off that society doesn’t want you, so you keep writing new whining articles where you’re not allowed to play. Of course I understood the text. Democrats don’t invite lateral thinkers, walkers, and other riffraff. They don’t want to be disturbed by some nutcases during constructive talks. DJ Hardi, Bomber Grit, and the other lady already found out how that looks at the workshop. Rightly so. Society doesn’t need pseudo "critics" just because everyone loves fresh air. If you wanted to convey a different message in your whining text, then let’s hear it? Again, note his "empathetic" wording. I am not frustrated. I interpreted the invitation to mean that the Alliance for Diversity and Democracy probably lacks broad support, since they call such a secret meeting, apparently fearing critics, and in my opinion Markus Nierth is susceptible to misinformation and propaganda. Christian Pagel wrote: How do you come to the conclusion that the support isn’t big enough? It’s not like you lateral thinkers trying to win people over with all sorts of topics just to avoid being a small ridiculous bunch. Every club, every group does its thing but still communicates, cooperates, and exchanges ideas. Your typical and deliberate distortion of facts is nonsense again. Of course, people want transparency but they don’t want lateral thinkers, Reich citizens, right-wing extremists, and other idiots who just disturb like Grit and Hardi and share their crazy thoughts. There is no misinformation or propaganda, it has been legally confirmed that the statements are true. Only you want to deny that as a defender of right-wing extremist views. In a later post he wrote: I know from a reliable source that the number of participants far exceeded all expectations. Whether this meeting actually took place in Zeitz and how many attended, I cannot verify. Maybe a participant will write a few lines about it. In his once again "empathetic" manner, he slanders and insults all critics indiscriminately. I definitely do not defend right-wing extremist views. He continues to use typical tactics from dark times in German history. Pagel confirms later in the chat that he also understands the meeting in Potsdam as concerning deportation because right-wingers (note: CDU members were also there) discussed remigration. I consider the way the "democrats" act and what they say in Zeitz to be hypocrisy. On one hand, they preach diversity and democracy; on the other, they refuse normal democratic discourse and exchange. That doesn’t fit, and I criticize it. Christian Pagel wrote: As I said, I know firsthand it was a complete success. Many were invited. Many weren’t. They invited those they expected to have constructive talks. Lateral thinkers definitely weren’t among them. It has absolutely nothing to do with democracy who talks to whom. Get rid of that rubbish. Democracy means the majority decides. It doesn’t mean people have to talk to each other. When a decision is made, it’s made by the majority. Whether they know each other, are friends, or have ever spoken a word to each other is irrelevant. Diversity is nice but diversity does not mean people have to get along. Opinions are nice too but that doesn’t mean people with different opinions have to exchange ideas. You should reflect on why so many people don’t want to meet with you and don’t want you to find out... In my opinion, Pagel is a master of contradicting himself. If someone publicly stands up for diversity and democracy, then it is hypocrisy to refuse dialogue. Christian Pagel continued: No, it’s not hypocrisy. I can live diversity, democracy, and freedom of speech and still not be obliged to engage with every opinion and every form of life. Of course, you’re frustrated that you enemies of democracy, the rule of law, and masters of lies weren’t invited. But that’s the beauty of a free country like Germany: everyone can talk to whoever they want. Again note his claim that I and others are "enemies of democracy, the rule of law, and masters of lies." It is well known that repetition is key in propaganda, especially repeating lies about political opponents. As the saying goes: If a lie is repeated often enough, it eventually becomes the truth. This is exactly what Christian Pagel bluntly does. I wrote: On the subject of enemies of democracy: One can have a divided opinion on Julian Reichelt. What he compiles in this video is pure hostility to democracy, which is supposedly to be enforced by the government. I cannot imagine how one can still be a member of the SPD in good conscience under such leadership. Christian Pagel wrote: I watched it and exactly what I said is confirmed. The crazy Reichelt obviously has a problem, just like you, with bullshit, lies, and misinformation being removed early. Of course he also has a problem with children being taught early, even in kindergarten, what democracy is, what lies and misinformation are, and that these must be stopped early to protect our democracy and rule of law. It’s not surprising that people like you who exist only because of misinformation, lies, and bullshit, want to spread it and make a living off it, oppose that. You are against the rule of law when you don’t like a law but then suddenly insist on it when it suits you. A magnificent schizophrenia. But Michael, rest assured, you can have your opinion and your diverse thoughts. But nobody will play along with you and I welcome that. Should one laugh, cry, or feel pity? Or is there anyone brave enough to offer a diagnosis? Pagel repeats his false claims, slanders, and insults again and again. None of the "democrats" joined the chat. The question arises whether the "democrats" fear some guilt by association if they side with Christian Pagel, or whether they don’t know how to distance themselves if they see things differently from him. Pagel claims to have contact with the mayor of Zeitz, Christian Thieme, and the district administrator Götz Ulrich. If true, do they know who is supporting them? If the position Pagel expresses is truly consensus among the "democrats" and the fighters for diversity and democracy, and Nancy Feaser’s efforts to defend "democracy" by clearly anti-democratic means are uncritically accepted, I can only conclude that Zeitz does not have a problem with right-wingers or "lateral thinkers" who, unlike the "democrats," are open to discourse. Zeitz has a problem with those who want to abolish democracy beyond doubt and restrict freedom of speech because they believe, or propaganda tells them, that this will save democracy. Zeitz has a problem with those who put diversity on their banners but reject diversity of opinion when opinions fall outside the permitted range. Zeitz has a problem! Through this link you can access the full chat history. The group is set to private. You must become a member first. I wish the actors and friends of the "Alliance for Diversity and Democracy" continued success. With fighters like Christian Pagel in your ranks, you will soon manage to have only one official opinion. And those who do not share the official opinion are, of course, right-wing extremist enemies of democracy whose opinions will be preemptively censored and preferably handed over to law enforcement. In a resilient democracy, censorship and dictatorship are the best tools, right? Polemics: Off!
Author: AI-Translation - Michael Thurm | vor dem 01.07.2024 |
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